From the ruling of the Mehaber and the Rama, to the arbitration of the Shach, the Taz, the Pri Megadim
and the Pitchei Teshuva, all the way to the contemporary Sephardic and Ashkenazi poskim
Subject:
שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן פ״ז (י״א סעיפים)
עם נושאי הכלים: ש״ך, ט״ז, פרי מגדים, פתחי תשובה
⚠ Level disclaimer:
This level is not "Da'at HaRav": the Shulchan Aruch HaRav
(the Admur HaZaken) does not cover Yoreh De'ah, hence not Siman 87.
It is a level of practical psika: what one does, and whom to ask.
Writing and iyun:
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How to read this level. Every statement is anchored either in the text of the Shulchan Aruch and its nossei kelim (Shach, Taz, Pri Megadim, Pitchei Teshuva), or in a named responsum of the contemporary poskim. On Yoreh De'ah there is neither a Mishnah Berurah (which comments only on Orach Chaim), nor a Shulchan Aruch HaRav / Da'at HaRav (the Admur HaZaken did not write the YD). Every concrete application (le-ma'asse) concludes with the referral to your Rav: real cases blend factual details (temperature, utensils, proportions) that only a posek who sees your situation can decide.
כָּתוּב בַּתּוֹרָה "לֹא תְבַשֵּׁל גְּדִי בַּחֲלֵב אִמּוֹ" ג' פְּעָמִים: אֶחָד לְאִסּוּר בִּשּׁוּל, וְאֶחָד לְאִסּוּר אֲכִילָה, וְאֶחָד לְאִסּוּר הֲנָאָה.
וְהוֹצִיא אֲכִילָה בִּלְשׁוֹן בִּשּׁוּל, לוֹמַר שֶׁאֵינוֹ אָסוּר מִן הַתּוֹרָה אֶלָּא דֶּרֶךְ בִּשּׁוּל, אֲבָל מִדְּרַבָּנָן אָסוּר בְּכָל עִנְיָן.
(הגה): כָּל בָּשָׂר בְּחָלָב שֶׁאֵינוֹ אָסוּר מִן הַתּוֹרָה — מֻתָּר בַּהֲנָאָה (טוּר וְאָרוֹךְ כְּלָל ל').
Three Torah prohibitions. It is written in the Torah, "You shall not cook a kid in its mother's milk," three times: one to prohibit cooking, one to prohibit eating, one to prohibit benefit (hana'a).
The Torah expressed eating through the word "cooking" to teach that the prohibition of the Torah applies only to what was prepared "in the manner of cooking" (derekh bishul); but by rabbinic institution it is forbidden in every manner.
Gloss of the Rama: any mixture of meat and milk that is not forbidden by the Torah is permitted for benefit (hana'a).
— Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh De'ah 87:1 · talmudic basis: Chullin 113a–115b · Sefaria YD 87:1
The Taz (s.k. 1) notes that the Maharshal (Yam Shel Shlomo, Chullin ch. 25 §100) disputes the Rama, the Rambam, and the Mordechai, holding "מסברא להחמיר בהנאה" — that one should be strict even regarding benefit. But the Taz rules: "ואנו אין לנו אלא דברי הראשונים והאחרונים" — we follow the Rishonim and the Acharonim, hence the Rama. Le-ma'asse: whatever is not deoraita is permitted for benefit.
Siman 87 contains 11 seifim. The Mehaber (Rabbi Yosef Karo) lays the framework; the Rama (הגה) glosses for the Ashkenazi minhag. Here is the overall map, as it emerges from the text itself.
| Seif | Subject | Psak (anchored in the text) |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | The 3 prohibitions; "derekh bishul" | Cooking / eating / benefit are deoraita; eating is deoraita only when cooked together. Non-deoraita = permitted for benefit (Rama). |
| 2 | "גדי" is not exclusive | Includes ox, sheep, goat (שור, שה, עז) and any milk, of the mother or another — דבר הכתוב בהווה. |
| 3 | On which meat the prohibition applies | Deoraita: meat of a tehora beheima + milk of a tehora beheima. Kosher poultry / wild beast = rabbinic prohibition of eating. Fish and locusts = nothing. Rama: almond milk + poultry permitted; meat of a beheima → place almonds beside it (mar'it ayin). |
| 4 | Human milk (חלב אשה); mar'it ayin | One does not cook with it, due to mar'it ayin; if it falls into a dish → batel without a shiur. Rama: a fortiori it is forbidden to cook lechatchila with impure milk / impure meat; but with poultry (rabbinic) one need not worry. |
| 5 | Eggs found inside poultry | A "complete" egg (yolk + white) → permitted with milk; yolk alone → one does not cook (= eat) it with milk. |
| 6 | Smoked food, thermal waters, milk of a dead/male animal | No malkut; but איסורא מיהא איכא (Shach s.k. 13). Rama: מי חלב and חלב מתה render the dish forbidden; חלב זכר does not. Precautions (utensils, stirring) = חומרות; "the one who is lenient has lost nothing." |
| 7 | Fetus, placenta, skin, sinews, bones | Fetus (שליל) → forbidden; placenta, skin, sinews, bones, horns, soft hooves → patur (Shach s.k. 22: ה״נ איסורא מיהא איכא — a prohibition nonetheless remains). |
| 8–9 | נסיובי / מי חלב (whey) | Disputed definition of "whey" and of its status (deoraita or not). |
| 10–11 | Milk of the abomasum (קיבה), rennet | Curdling with milk taken from the abomasum: rules of 60 (בטל בס׳), the distinction צלול / קרוש, skin of a kosher animal's abomasum vs nevela. |
| Circle | Case | Cooking | Eating | Benefit |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ① Deoraita | Meat of a tehora beheima + milk of a tehora beheima, cooked together | Forbidden mi-Torah | Forbidden mi-Torah | Forbidden mi-Torah |
| ② Permitted (one impure side) | Tehora meat + impure milk, or impure meat + tehora milk | Permitted (bassar be-halav)* | —** | Permitted |
| ③ Derabbanan | Poultry (עוף) or kosher wild beast (חיה) + tehora milk | Permitted mi-Torah | Forbidden derabbanan | Permitted mi-Torah |
| ④ No prohibition | Fish and locusts (דגים וחגבים) + milk | Permitted | Permitted (bassar be-halav)*** | Permitted |
* As for the mixture of tehora meat + impure milk, eating remains forbidden on other grounds (impure meat or milk), not under the heading of bassar be-halav. ** see Taz/Shach §4. *** subject to the separate "sakana" note in §7 below.
On Yoreh De'ah, it is these nossei kelim — and not the Mishnah Berurah, which exists only on Orach Chaim — that constitute the jurisprudence. Here are the arbitrations that weigh le-ma'asse, all anchored in the corpus of the siman.
The Bach (reported by the Shach s.k. 3 and the Taz s.k. 2) wished to say that tehora meat + impure milk would still be forbidden derabbanan under the heading of bassar be-halav, with a נפקא מינה for "חתיכה נעשית נבילה" and for the "חתיכה הראויה להתכבד" (siman 101). The Shach (s.k. 3) and the Taz (s.k. 2) both refute this at length: nowhere do we find that an impure side is forbidden under the heading of bassar be-halav; the only truly disputed case is poultry. The Mishnah itself teaches only "permitted for cooking and benefit" regarding the impure beheima. Le-ma'asse: a single impure side is not bassar be-halav.
Le-ma'asse. In public (community meals, a table set for guests), it is proper to place the almonds visibly — or to clearly identify the plant-based milk — beside a meat dish. At home, the practice is more lenient. To know, in your specific situation, what counts as "public" and what suffices as a distinguishing sign, ask your Rav.
| Practical case | Rule | Source (corpus) |
|---|---|---|
| Cooking poultry in a dairy utensil that is eino ben-yomo (for a non-Jew) | Permitted according to the Chamudei Daniel — "כל שאינו אסור רק מדרבנן לא גזרו בבישול והנאה" — but there is reason to be strict (Rama seif 6, stirring) | Pitchei Teshuva s.k. 8 |
| Almond milk + poultry, without almonds beside it, at home | Permitted (no real mar'it ayin); in public, place a sign | Pitchei Teshuva s.k. 10; Shach s.k. 6 |
| A complete egg found inside the poultry + milk | Permitted to eat; yolk alone, not | Mehaber + Shach s.k. 11; PT s.k. 12 |
Le-ma'asse today (plant-based milks). Cooking meat with soy, almond, oat, or coconut milk is permitted in substance. The live question is: does mar'it ayin still apply when these products are in common use and labeled "plant-based / pareve"? Several poskim are lenient when the plant-based character is obvious (a label on the packaging, context). But this is precisely the kind of detail (public/private, visibility of the label) that depends on the situation: ask your Rav what you may do at your table.
Le-ma'asse. Fish with milk is widely permitted (Shach, Taz, Chatam Sofer, Pitchei Teshuva); nonetheless, many Sephardic families abstain by a minhag of caution. Fish with meat, on the other hand, is the subject of a sakana restraint (Orach Chaim 173) that the practice observes. For your exact family practice, ask your Rav.
Le-ma'asse. A deoraita mixture of meat and milk is forbidden for benefit: one does not sell it, give it away, or make use of it (e.g., for lighting — PT s.k. 4 in the name of the Sha'ar Efraim). A non-deoraita mixture: benefit is permitted. But determining whether a concrete case is "cooked together" in the halakhic sense (frying, microwave, hotplate, "hot into hot") is a question debated among the Acharonim (the Pri Chadash includes frying — PT s.k. 3; others are lenient) — ask your Rav.
Note on method. The responsa that follow (Yabia Omer, Yehaveh Da'at, Yalkut Yossef, Or LeTzion) extend the principles of siman 87 above to modern cases. They do not appear in the corpus of the siman; they are cited as recognized streams of psika, to be confirmed with a Rav before any application.
| Concrete case | Sephardic orientation (to be verified) |
|---|---|
| Poultry + milk | Derabbanan (the Mehaber rules thus, seif 3). It remains forbidden to eat; cooking/benefit permitted. No deoraita bassar be-halav. |
| Almond / soy milk with a meat dish | Permitted in substance. The Shach's mar'it ayin (s.k. 6) is eased when the plant-based character is obvious (a "pareve" label, widespread use); at a public meal, a distinguishing sign is recommended. |
| Hard cheese then meat (waiting period) | Belongs to siman 89, not 87. The Sephardic school does not require the 6-hour wait after ordinary hard cheese (unlike an Ashkenazi practice), except for very aged / matured cheeses depending on the details — to be confirmed. |
| Fish + milk | Permitted according to the Shach (s.k. 5) and the Pitchei Teshuva (s.k. 9); many Sephardic families abstain by a minhag of caution. |
Note on method. The same remark applies: these streams extend the Rama and the nossei kelim; they are cited as landmarks of psika, to be confirmed with a Rav.
| Concrete case | Ashkenazi orientation (to be verified) |
|---|---|
| Poultry + milk | Derabbanan likewise. The Shach (s.k. 4) notes that the Maharshal and the Bach inclined to be strict (deoraita) in the name of the Maharai, but the Shach maintains "derabbanan." Le-ma'asse: forbidden to eat, permitted for cooking/benefit. |
| Almond / plant-based milk + meat | The Rama requires the distinguishing sign (almonds) beside beheima meat; the Shach (s.k. 6) extends it even to poultry. Ashkenazi tendency: greater attentiveness to mar'it ayin, especially in public. |
| Precautions of seif 6 (utensils, stirring) | The Rama lists several חומרות (rinse water, the pots of non-Jews); he concludes "ובדיעבד אין לחוש בכל זה... והמיקל לא הפסיד." Thus: strict lechatchila, lenient bedi'avad. |
| Forbidden cooked bassar be-halav | A deoraita mixture = forbidden for benefit: one does not sell it, does not use it (e.g., for lighting — Pitchei Teshuva s.k. 4 / Sha'ar Efraim). Modern question (Iggrot Moshe and others): the status of industrial residues — see §11. |
| Industrial case | Tool of the siman | Orientation (to be confirmed with the Rav) |
|---|---|---|
| Animal rennet in a cheese | Seif 11: skin of a kosher animal's abomasum (טעם → בטל בס׳) vs nevela (אוסר בכל שהוא — Mehaber seif 11; Shach s.k. 35) | The Rama (seif 11): "דבר האסור בעצמו ומעמיד אפילו באלף לא בטיל" — a forbidden coagulating agent (ma'amid) is not nullified, even in a thousand; hence the issue of the rennet's kashrut. |
| Flavoring / milk powder in a "meat" product | Seif 1: deoraita only if "cooked together"; mar'it ayin otherwise | If a dairy powder is cooked with beheima meat → potentially deoraita; poultry → derabbanan. The quantity (shiur, batel be-shishim) is dealt with in simanim 98 onward. |
| "Pareve" containing traces | Seif 3: plant-based milks permitted; problem of mar'it ayin | A plant-based substitute in a meat dish is permitted in substance; a legible "pareve" label mitigates the mar'it ayin according to several poskim. |
| Residue of deoraita bassar be-halav | Seif 1: forbidden for benefit; PT s.k. 4 (Sha'ar Efraim) on lighting | A deoraita mixture remains forbidden for benefit; do not reuse it, resell it, or use it for lighting ("כתותי מכתת שיעורא"). |
Le-ma'asse. Industrial products (E additives, flavorings, microbial or animal rennet, whey powders, "pareve") blend questions of fact — which source, which quantity, cooked or not — that only a kashrut agency and your Rav can decide. The practical rule: rely on a trustworthy certification, and for any doubt, ask your Rav.
| Mixture | Cooking | Eating | Benefit | Level |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kosher beheima meat + kosher milk, cooked together | ❌ | ❌ | ❌ | Deoraita |
| Poultry / kosher wild beast + milk | ✔ | ❌ | ✔ | Derabbanan (eating) |
| Meat + milk by soaking / salting (not cooked) | — | ❌ | ✔ | Derabbanan |
| Kosher meat + impure milk / impure meat + kosher milk | ✔* | —** | ✔ | Permitted (b.b.h.) |
| Meat + plant-based milk (almond, soy…) | ✔ | ✔*** | ✔ | Permitted (mar'it ayin) |
| Fish / locusts + milk | ✔ | ✔**** | ✔ | None (b.b.h.) |
* under the heading of bassar be-halav. ** forbidden on other grounds (impure meat/milk). *** distinguishing sign in public (mar'it ayin). **** subject to the "sakana" minhag of caution.
| Posek | Decisive contribution (anchored in the corpus) |
|---|---|
| Mehaber (seifim 1–11) | 3 deoraita prohibitions; "derekh bishul"; 3 circles (deoraita / derabbanan / permitted); mar'it ayin of human milk. |
| Rama (הגה) | Non-deoraita permitted for benefit; almond milk + distinguishing sign; precautions of seif 6 (חומרות, "the one who is lenient has lost nothing"). |
| Shach (Siftei Kohen) | "Derekh bishul" excludes kavush/melicha (s.k. 1); poultry = derabbanan, lengthy defense (s.k. 4); fish+milk permitted, the Beit Yosef erred (s.k. 5); mar'it ayin even derabbanan, almonds even beside poultry (s.k. 6). |
| Taz (Turei Zahav) | Follows the Rama against the Maharshal on hana'a (s.k. 1); one impure side is not bassar be-halav (s.k. 2); "fish in milk" = copyist's error, read "meat" (s.k. 3). |
| Pri Megadim (פר״מ) | Frying included in "bishul" (reported PT s.k. 3); status of hana'a and of the חצי שיעור in cooking/benefit (PT s.k. 2); rules that the non-deoraita remains forbidden for benefit min ha-Torah according to some (PT s.k. 6). |
| Pitchei Teshuva (פתחי תשובה) | Liability (lokeh) and חצי שיעור in cooking/benefit (s.k. 2); frying included in the bishul, in the name of the Pri Chadash (s.k. 3); butter forbidden for benefit → lighting / Chanukah candle, Sha'ar Efraim (s.k. 4); fish+milk permitted today (s.k. 9); almond milk at home permitted without almonds (s.k. 10); cooking poultry in a dairy utensil eino ben-yomo (s.k. 8). |
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