A first approach to Siman 94: the 9 seifim of the Mehaber and the glosses of the Rama, the Hebrew text with a fluent English translation. What happens when one dips a dairy ladle (כף חולבת) into a meat pot? The role of the ladle being ben yomo, of assessing the sixty against only the dipped part (לשער נגד מה שנתחב), of the taste of a permitted taste (נותן טעם בר נותן טעם דהיתרא), of the knife (סכין) that cuts boiling meat, of kelipa, hag'ala and netzia.
Topic: Dipping a dairy spoon into a meat pot — sixty against the dipped part, nat bar nat, the knife Source: שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן צ״ד
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📑 Study outline
1.The text of the Mehaber: the 9 seifim, by thematic groups
2.Context: why this siman follows the laws of vessels and mixtures
3.The key concepts: kaf, ben yomo, le-sha'er neged ma she-nitchav, nat bar nat, kelipa…
4.Assessing the sixty: the ben yomo / not ben yomo ladle table
5.The Shach and the Taz: who they are, a few key entries
6.The gloss of the Rama (הגה)
7.Noten taam bar noten taam de-hetera: the taste of a permitted taste
Siman 94 directly continues the laws of בשר בחלב (meat and milk), now from the angle of vessels. After the seifim on the mixture in the pot, the Mehaber (Rabbi Yossef Karo) deals here with a very concrete situation: one dips a dairy ladle (כף חולבת) into a meat pot — or vice versa. Everything depends on the measure (is there sixty?), on what one counts it against (the whole ladle, or only the dipped part?), and on whether the ladle is ben yomo (used in a keli rishon within 24 hours). The Rama (Rabbi Moshe Isserles) adds his glosses (הגה) to refine the practice. Let us explore the seifim by groups.
Group A — Assessing against the dipped part, and a double dip (seifim 1-2)
Seif 1 — One assesses against the dipped part; the ladle ben yomo; cham miktzato cham kulo
One who dips a dairy ladle (כף חולבת) into a meat pot — or the reverse — one assesses (the sixty) against the whole part of the ladle that was dipped into the pot (משערים בכל מה שנתחב). Provided the ladle is ben yomo, that is, that it was used in a keli rishon within twenty-four hours (תוך מעת לעת). Some say that if the ladle is of metal, one assesses against the whole ladle, because "cham miktzato cham kulo" (metal partly hot is hot throughout). Gloss of the Rama: but the first opinion is the essential one (ikar) and that is how we practice (וכן נוהגין); and see above Siman 98.
The central idea: the ladle did not absorb milk over its whole surface, but only where it touched the pot's broth. One therefore counts the sixty against the dipped part alone (le-sha'er neged ma she-nitchav) — the Shach (s.k. 1) explains: because we do not know how much the ladle discharges. All this assumes the ladle is ben yomo: used in a keli rishon within 24 hours, its absorbed taste is still "good" and prohibits. The opinion that, for metal, one would measure against the whole ladle (cham miktzato cham kulo) is rejected by the Rama: we do not rule so.
If one dipped the ladle into the pot twice without anything being known in between (שני פעמים ולא נודע בינתים), one needs twice sixty (ב' פעמים ששים). Gloss of the Rama: some say that once sixty suffices — and that is how we practice (דסגי בפעם אחת ששים וכן נוהגים) (Terumat ha-Deshen 183, Hagahot Shaarei Dura, ve-Aroch).
The pivot of the seif: at each dip the ladle again discharges its taste; two successive dips, without checking in between, are therefore a priori two discharges to neutralize → twice sixty. The Taz (s.k. 2) explains why, then the Rama rules, per the practice, that the absorbed permitted taste (heter balua) does not become nevila and that once sixty suffices.
Group B — Is there sixty to nullify the ladle? (seifim 3-4)
Seif 3 — Sixty against the ladle: pot permitted, ladle prohibited; without sixty → all prohibited be-hana'a
If there is sixty to nullify the ladle (יש שישים לבטל הכף), the pot and the dish are permitted; but the ladle itself is prohibited, whether with meat or with milk, because it is imbued with basar be-chalav (בלועה מבשר בחלב). And even bedieved it prohibits if one re-dips it (in meat or milk) as long as it is bat yoma. If there is no sixty, everything is prohibited even for benefit (be-hana'a), including the pot; one may nonetheless put into it fruit or cold food (פירות או צונן), since one does not benefit from the body of the prohibition itself (אינו נהנה מגוף האיסור).
Two cases, two outcomes. With sixty: the broth drowned the discharged dairy taste → pot and dish permitted; only the ladle stays prohibited, for it absorbed basar be-chalav (an already-forbidden mixture). Without sixty: the meat-milk mixture formed without being nullified → issur hana'a: one may no longer benefit, neither from the dish nor from the pot. But since the prohibition of basar be-chalav rests on the body of the mixture, one may still use the pot for fruit or cold food, where one does not benefit from the forbidden substance itself.
If the ladle is not ben yomo (אין הכף בן יומו), the pot and the dish are permitted, and the ladle is prohibited le-khatchila (a priori), whether with meat or with milk. Nevertheless, bedieved, it does not prohibit (בדיעבד אינה אוסרת), since it was not bat yoma — its absorbed taste has become pagum (spoiled, noten taam li-fgam).
Why this leniency? A ladle not ben yomo (more than 24 hours since its last hot use) discharges only a spoiled taste (pagum), which does not prohibit bedieved. One remains strict only a priori (le-khatchila): one does not deliberately dip a dairy ladle into meat, even one not ben yomo. But if it already happened — pot, dish and ladle remain permitted.
Group C — A new pot, imbued vegetables, and the knife (seifim 5-7)
Seif 5 — A NEW pot + two ladles; noten taam bar noten taam; the practice as a chumra
If one cooked water in a new pot (קדרה חדשה) and dipped a dairy ladle into it, then re-cooked water and dipped a meat ladle, with both ladles bnei yomam, and on neither occasion was there sixty in the water → it is prohibited to use the pot for meat or milk, but other foods may be cooked in it, since it was new (never used before). Gloss of the Rama: nonetheless, if one transgressed and cooked meat or milk in it → permitted, for it is noten taam bar noten taam (taste of a taste — Hagahot Maimoniyot). — A pot in which vegetables or water were cooked and into which a ben yomo ladle was dipped while the pot is not bat yoma (or the reverse), or if there is sixty in the food → all is permitted. The practice is to be stringent: to eat the food "on the side of" the vessel that is ben yomo and to prohibit the vessel that is not ben yomo — but this is only a chumra, for mi-dina all is permitted (כי מדינא הכל שרי).
The taste of a taste (nat bar nat). The dairy ladle did not put milk directly into meat: its taste passed through the water, then through the new pot. When a permitted taste passes through one or two neutral intermediaries before reaching the other kind, it is noten taam bar noten taam — a taste too weakened to prohibit bedieved. The Mehaber stays strict le-khatchila (one does not use the pot for meat/milk), but the Rama permits after the fact. The practice of prohibiting "the vessel not ben yomo" is only a chumra: mi-dina, all is permitted.
Seif 6 — Vegetables imbued with meat in a dairy pot; no chnn
Onions or vegetables imbued with meat (בלועים מבשר) cooked in a dairy pot: if one knows how much meat is imbued in the onions/vegetables, one needs sixty only against the meat (כנגד הבשר), not against everything. Gloss of the Rama: one does not say chatikha naasit nevila here, since it is all still heter (כולו היתר); therefore one assesses only against what was imbued. All the more so a dairy pot in which one cooked water within 24 hours and then meat: one assesses only against the milk imbued by the pot, not against all the water (the import of the Tur and the Beit Yossef).
Why no chnn (the piece becomes nevila)? Because nothing here is yet prohibited: the meat imbued in the vegetables, like the milk imbued in the pot, is heter as long as it has not met its opposite in sufficient quantity. One therefore counts sixty only against the amount actually absorbed — not against the whole vegetable or all the water. Chnn applies only to a real, already-formed prohibition (cf. Siman 92).
Seif 7 — A dairy knife (סכין) on boiling meat; kelipa, hag'ala, netzia
Boiling meat cut with a dairy knife (בסכין חולבת): the whole slice is prohibited if there is no sixty against the place of the knife that cut the meat (כנגד מקום הסכין). But if the knife is not ben yomo, or if one does not know, it prohibits only kedei kelipa (a peel's thickness). Gloss of the Rama: all this for boiling meat in a keli rishon; then, if the knife is ben yomo and there is no 60, all is prohibited and even the knife requires hag'ala. But in a keli sheni, the meat requires kelipa and the knife netzia (thrusting it into the ground) — and that is how we practice. And even if the knife is not ben yomo, one should peel the meat a little because of the grease (shamnunit) of the knife (Tur and Beit Yossef in the name of the Sma"k).
The knife is the ladle in miniature. As with the ladle (seif 1), one measures against the place of the knife that touched the hot meat, not against the whole blade. Heat decides the depth: in a keli rishon (meat still boiling), penetration is total → 60 or all prohibited, and the knife requires hag'ala; in a keli sheni, it is more superficial → kelipa for the meat, netzia for the knife. And even a cold knife leaves a grease (shamnunit) on the surface → one peels a little.
Group D — Kelipa and noten taam bar noten taam de-hetera (seifim 8-9)
Seif 8 — Cheese fallen into an oven / hot cheese in a meat bowl: kelipa
If cheese, even moist (גבינה אפילו לחה), falls into a panad"s oven (a meat vessel), and likewise hot cheese in a meat bowl that is bat yoma (גבינה חמה בקערת בשר בת יומא) → it prohibits only kedei kelipa (a peel's thickness).
Why only a peel? Cheese fallen onto meat, or hot cheese placed in a hot meat bowl, does not penetrate deeply: the contact is limited to the surface. One therefore removes a kelipa — a thin peel — and the rest is permitted. It is the same logic as the knife in a keli sheni (seif 7): no deep cooking, hence only a superficial prohibition.
Seif 9 — Honey cooked in a meat pan, poured into a milk bowl: nat bar nat de-hetera
If one cooked honey in a meat pan that is bat yoma (מחבת של בשר בת יומא) and poured it hot into a milk bowl that is bat yoma (קערה של חלב בת יומא) → permitted, because it is noten taam bar noten taam de-hetera (the taste of a permitted taste).
The honey, a neutral intermediary. The meat taste first passed through the honey (which is neither meat nor milk), then the honey meets the milk bowl. By the time the meat taste (already weakened by the honey) reaches the milk, it is only a taste of a permitted taste (nat bar nat de-hetera): too indirect to form a true meat-milk mixture. This is exactly the principle of seif 5 (the water and the new pot), here applied to honey.
2. Context — where this siman fits
The preceding simanim dealt with the mixture in the pot (the fallen milk, the prohibited piece, the tserouf). Siman 94 moves to the intermediary vessels: the ladle (כף) and the knife (סכין) that pass from one kind to the other. The question is no longer "against which piece does one count?" but "against which part of the vessel — the whole ladle, or only what was dipped?", "is the vessel ben yomo?", and "did the taste pass through a neutral intermediary (nat bar nat)?".
The great questions of the siman
Question
Where?
Typical answer
Against what does one measure the sixty?
Seif 1
Against the dipped part alone (le-sha'er neged ma she-nitchav)
Double dip of the ladle
Seif 2
2× sixty a priori; the practice: 1× suffices
Is there sixty against the ladle?
Seifim 3-4
60 → pot permitted, ladle prohibited; without 60 → all prohibited be-hana'a
Nat bar nat and the new pot
Seifim 5-6
Taste of a permitted taste bedieved; no chnn on the heter
The knife and the kelipa
Seifim 7-9
60 against the spot, or kelipa; honey → nat bar nat permitted
The cross-cutting idea: everything is a matter of measure (sixty), of the part touched, and of heat. Which part of the vessel touched? Is it ben yomo (does it discharge a "good" or "spoiled" taste)? Did the taste arrive directly, or weakened by an intermediary (nat bar nat)? And does heat make it penetrate deeply (keli rishon) or only on the surface (keli sheni → kelipa)?
3. The key concepts of this siman
To understand Siman 94, you need to master a small technical vocabulary that describes how taste is measured, discharged, and diffuses through a vessel.
כף / לשער נגד מה שנתחב — The ladle, assessed against the dipped part: one does not count the sixty against the whole ladle, but against the part alone that was dipped into the pot (seif 1), because we do not know how much it discharges (Shach s.k. 1). If one does not know how far it was dipped → one assumes "up to the top of the ladle" (ad rosh ha-kaf).
בן יומו / נותן טעם לפגם — Ben yomo: a vessel used in a keli rishon within 24 hours, whose absorbed taste is still "good" and prohibits bedieved. Past that time, the taste becomes noten taam li-fgam (spoiled): the ladle then prohibits only le-khatchila (seif 4).
נותן טעם בר נותן טעם דהיתרא — Nat bar nat de-hetera: "the taste of a permitted taste." A permitted taste that passed through a neutral intermediary (water, pot, honey) before reaching the other kind does not prohibit bedieved (seifim 5, 9). A major theme of the siman.
חם מקצתו חם כולו — "Partly hot, hot throughout": an opinion that would, for a metal ladle, measure against the whole ladle. The Rama rejects it for the halakha (וכן נוהגין): one measures only against the dipped part (seif 1).
חתיכה נעשית נבילה — inapplicable — Here (seif 6), as long as everything is heter, one does not apply chnn: one assesses only against the amount actually imbued (the balua), not against the whole vegetable or all the water.
קליפה / הגעלה / נעיצה — The remedies: kelipa = peeling a thin surface (a superficial prohibition, seifim 7-8); hag'ala = scalding (a ben yomo knife in a keli rishon, seif 7); netzia = thrusting the knife into the ground (keli sheni, seif 7).
Two cross-cutting notions:איסור הנאה ("prohibited even for benefit," seif 3) — without sixty, one no longer benefits from the pot, except for fruit/cold food; and the distinction כלי ראשון / כלי שני that decides whether the knife (or the cheese) prohibits deeply or only kedei kelipa (seifim 7-8).
4. Assessing the sixty — the ladle table
The whole beginning of the siman boils down to a table. One crosses is the ladle ben yomo? with is there sixty against the dipped part?, and looks at the status of the pot and the ladle.
Situation
Pot & dish
The ladle
Ladle ben yomo, 60 against the dipped part
🟢 Permitted
🔴 Prohibited (imbued with bb"ch)
Ladle ben yomo, no 60
🔴 All prohibited be-hana'a (except fruit/cold)
🔴 Prohibited
Ladle not ben yomo
🟢 Permitted
🟡 Prohibited le-khatchila; bedieved permitted
Ladle dipped twice (without knowing)
—
2× 60 a priori; the practice: 1× suffices (seif 2)
Taste via a neutral intermediary (water, new pot, honey)
🟢 Permitted bedieved (nat bar nat)
— (seifim 5, 9)
The logic in one sentence: one measures sixty against the dipped part alone; if the ladle is ben yomo and there is 60, one saves the pot but not the ladle; if there is no 60, everything becomes prohibited even for benefit; and if the ladle is not ben yomo, everything is saved bedieved.
The Rama's point (seif 1): the opinion "cham miktzato cham kulo" (measuring against the whole metal ladle) is rejected; the first opinion — sixty against the dipped part only — is the essential one, and that is how we practice (וכן נוהגין).
5. The Shach and the Taz — the great commentators
In Yoreh De'ah, the Shulchan Aruch is never read alone. Two great commentaries accompany it on every page and structure the practical study: the Shach and the Taz. These are the principal nossei kelim of Yoreh De'ah (no Mishna Berurah here, which comments only on Orach Chaim).
The Shach (ש״ך) — abbreviation of שפתי כהן, Siftei Kohen, by Rabbi Shabtai haCohen (Lithuania, 17th century). It is the reference commentary on Yoreh De'ah, of great analytical depth.
The Taz (ט״ז) — abbreviation of טורי זהב, Turei Zahav, by Rabbi David haLevi Segal (Poland, 17th century). Often in dialogue — and sometimes in disagreement — with the Shach.
A key entry from the Shach
Shach s.k. 1 — Why measure only against the dipped part
The Shach explains: one measures against the whole dipped part because we do not know how much it discharges (lo yad'inan kama nafik minei); and see Siman 98:5 for the case where one does know how much was imbued. The Shach cites the Maharshal (Rash"al): if one does not know how far the ladle was dipped, one assumes it was dipped up to its top (ad rosh ha-kaf) — so one measures sixty against the whole ladle by default.
A key entry from the Taz
Taz s.k. 12 — The knife: against the spot, or against the whole blade?
The Taz discusses: should one measure sixty against the place of the knife that cut, or against the whole blade? The Tur, in the name of Rabbenu Peretz, assesses against the whole blade; but the Mehaber does not, because we do not hold "cham kulo" (the whole metal hot) — consistent with seif 1. The Rash"al is nonetheless stringent and measures against the whole blade, because "a matter that does not rest upon a person, he does not pay attention to" (milta de-lo ramya alei de-inish lav a-da'atei): one does not measure precisely where one cut.
One sees the method: the Shach and the Taz do not repeat the Mehaber — they explain the mechanism (we do not know how much the ladle discharges → against the dipped part; the same logic for the knife) and rule on the details. This is exactly what one deepens at the Lamdan level, with the debate over cham miktzato cham kulo and the scope of nat bar nat de-hetera.
6. The gloss of the Rama (הגה)
The Rama (Rabbi Moshe Isserles) adds to the Mehaber's text glosses that reflect the practice and refine the application. Here are his most striking interventions in our siman.
On seif 1 — we do not hold "cham miktzato cham kulo"
Gloss of the Rama: וסברא ראשונה עיקר וכן נוהגין — "the first opinion is the essential one and that is how we practice." Where an opinion would measure against the whole metal ladle (cham miktzato cham kulo), the settled practice holds to the dipped part alone. The Rama also refers to Siman 98.
On seif 2 — once sixty suffices
Gloss of the Rama: ויש אומרים דסגי בפעם אחת ששים וכן נוהגים — "some say that once sixty suffices, and that is how we practice" (Terumat ha-Deshen 183). For a ladle dipped twice without checking in between, the practice is lenient: a single sixty suffices.
On seif 5 — noten taam bar noten taam, and the chumra of the practice
Gloss of the Rama: מיהו אם עבר ובישל בה בשר או חלב מותר דהוי נותן טעם בר נותן טעם — "nonetheless, if one transgressed and cooked meat or milk in it, it is permitted, for it is a taste of a taste" (a new pot, Hagahot Maimoniyot). And the practice of prohibiting "the vessel not ben yomo" is only a chumra: mi-dina, all is permitted.
On seifim 6-7 — no chnn on the heter; the knife in a keli sheni
The Rama further specifies: for vegetables imbued with meat in a dairy pot, one does not say chatikha naasit nevila, since it is all still heter → sixty against the imbued amount alone (seif 6); and for the knife, he develops the cases of the keli rishon (hag'ala) and the keli sheni (kelipa for the meat, netzia for the knife), adding that even a knife not ben yomo requires peeling the meat a little because of the grease (shamnunit) (seif 7).
The Rama carefully distinguishes the basic law (the Mehaber) from the refinements of the practice — leniencies (1× sixty, nat bar nat permitted bedieved) and targeted stringencies (the chumra of the vessel not ben yomo, peeling because of the knife's grease).
7. Noten taam bar noten taam de-hetera — the taste of a permitted taste
Seifim 5 and 9 — the conceptual heart of the siman — deserve a pause. What exactly does "the taste of a permitted taste" mean?
Everything rests on the notion of a neutral intermediary. When a permitted taste passes through a medium that is neither meat nor milk before reaching the other kind, two things change:
Nat bar nat de-hetera (permitted): the taste (meat) passed through the water, the new pot or the honey before meeting the milk — too weakened and indirect to prohibit bedieved.
Nat bar nat prohibited: if, by contrast, there was prohibition be-ein (an already-formed meat-milk mixture, or meat in substance — cf. Siman 95), the taste is no longer "permitted" and the rule does not apply.
Case
Intermediary
Status bedieved
New pot (seif 5)
Water, then the pot
🟢 Permitted (nat bar nat)
Transferred honey (seif 9)
Honey
🟢 Permitted (nat bar nat de-hetera)
Imbued vegetables (seif 6)
The vegetable (heter)
🟢 60 against the balua only
Prohibition be-ein (cf. Siman 95)
—
🔴 Prohibited (the taste is no longer permitted)
Direct ladle (seif 1)
None
🔴 60 against the dipped part required
And the Mehaber adds the practical nuance: even when mi-dina all is permitted (nat bar nat), the practice stays strict le-khatchila (seif 5) — one does not deliberately use the new pot for meat and then milk. The permit of nat bar nat is a bedieved permit, "after the fact."
8. Modern practical cases
How do these rules apply in our kitchens today? Here are three common situations illuminated by our siman.
Case 1 — A dairy ladle dipped by mistake into the meat pot
One dips a dairy ladle into a simmering meat broth. Seif 1 commands: is the ladle ben yomo? and is there sixty against the dipped part? If yes (60) → the broth is permitted, but the ladle stays prohibited (seif 3). If no (no 60) → everything becomes prohibited even for benefit, except for fruit/cold food. And if the ladle was not ben yomo (more than 24 hours) → everything is permitted bedieved (seif 4). For the halakha le-ma'aseh, consult your Rav.
Case 2 — Cutting boiling meat with a dairy knife
One slices a still-boiling roast with a dairy knife (seif 7). In a keli rishon (very hot meat), if there is no sixty against the knife's spot → the whole slice is prohibited and the knife requires hag'ala. In a keli sheni (less hot meat) → the meat needs only a kelipa and the knife a netzia. And even a cold knife leaves a grease (shamnunit) → one peels a little. For the halakha le-ma'aseh, consult your Rav.
Case 3 — Honey (or a pareve food) cooked on the meat side, transferred to the milk side
Honey cooked in a meat pan, then poured hot into a dairy bowl (seif 9). Since the meat taste passed through the honey (a neutral intermediary) before reaching the milk, it is noten taam bar noten taam de-hetera → permitted. But beware: if the pan held meat in substance (be-ein), or an already-prohibited mixture, the rule no longer holds (cf. Siman 95). For the halakha le-ma'aseh, consult your Rav.
The thread of the three cases: before panicking, ask yourself three questions — which part of the vessel touched? is it ben yomo? did the taste pass through a neutral intermediary (nat bar nat)? But the concrete decision always belongs to the Rav, who knows the factual details.
9. Summary of Siman 94
The essence of Siman 94 in a few sentences:
One assesses the sixty against the dipped part alone of the ladle (seif 1); the opinion "cham miktzato cham kulo" is rejected (Rama).
A ladle dipped twice → twice sixty a priori; the practice: once suffices (seif 2).
With 60: pot and dish permitted, ladle prohibited (imbued with bb"ch) (seif 3).
Without 60: all prohibited be-hana'a, except for fruit/cold food (seif 3).
A ladle not ben yomo → all permitted; ladle prohibited only le-khatchila (seif 4).
A new pot + two ladles → prohibited le-khatchila; bedieved permitted because of nat bar nat (seif 5).
Vegetables imbued with meat in a dairy pot → no chnn; sixty against the balua alone (seif 6).
A knife on boiling meat: 60 against the spot, otherwise kelipa; keli rishon → hag'ala, keli sheni → netzia (seif 7).
Cheese in an oven / a meat bowl → kelipa (seif 8); honey transferred → nat bar nat de-hetera, permitted (seif 9).
Memory table
Situation
Measure / status
Dipped ladle, one measures…
🟢 60 against the dipped part (le-sha'er neged ma she-nitchav)
Ladle ben yomo + 60
🟡 Pot permitted, ladle prohibited
Ladle ben yomo, no 60
🔴 All prohibited be-hana'a (except fruit/cold)
Ladle not ben yomo
🟢 Permitted bedieved
New pot / transferred honey
🟢 Nat bar nat de-hetera — permitted bedieved
Knife keli rishon / keli sheni
🔴 Hag'ala / 🟡 Kelipa + netzia
Hot cheese on a meat bowl
🟡 Kedei kelipa
Comprehension questions
Check your understanding:
Against what does one measure a ladle's sixty (seif 1)? What does the Rama rule on cham miktzato cham kulo?
What is a בן יומו ladle? What difference with a ladle not ben yomo (seif 4)?
A ladle dipped twice: how many sixties per the Mehaber, and per the practice (seif 2)?
With sixty (seif 3), what is permitted, what stays prohibited, and why?
Without sixty (seif 3), what is איסור הנאה? What can one still do with the pot?
Explain "נותן טעם בר נותן טעם דהיתרא." Why are the new pot (seif 5) and the honey (seif 9) permitted?
Why does one not apply chatikha naasit nevila at seif 6? Against what does one measure then?
A dairy knife on boiling meat: distinguish כלי ראשון and כלי שני (seif 7). When hag'ala, when netzia, when kelipa?
Why does the cheese (seif 8) prohibit only כדי קליפה?
What does the Shach (s.k. 1) say about "why measure against the dipped part"? And the Taz (s.k. 12) on the knife?
To go further
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