When a spoiling taste permits and when it permits nothing: the twenty-four hours, a vessel בן יומו and אינו בן יומו, forbidden matter left בעין, sharp foods, and the presumptions about their vessels and about ours
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| The source | What it establishes | Its consequence in the siman |
|---|---|---|
| « לְשֶׁבַח — אָסוּר, וְלִפְגָם — מוּתָּר » (עבודה זרה ס״ז ע״ב) | A taste that improves forbids; a taste that spoils does nothing | The opening sentence of seif 1 |
| « לֹא אָסְרָה תּוֹרָה אֶלָּא קְדֵירָה בַּת יוֹמָא, דְּלָא לִפְגָם הוּא » (עבודה זרה ס״ז ע״ב) | The Torah forbade only a pot of the day, whose taste has not yet spoiled | The twenty-four hour line — seif 2 |
| « גְּזֵירָה קְדֵירָה שֶׁאֵינָהּ בַּת יוֹמָא מִשּׁוּם קְדֵירָה בַּת יוֹמָא » (עבודה זרה ע״ו ע״א) | The Sages re-forbade לכתחלה what the Torah permitted | אסרו חכמים לבשל בה לכתחלה — seif 2 |
Basis: seifim 2 and 4 of the Mehaber, with the ט״ז and the פתחי תשובה. The twenty-four hours are counted from the moment the prohibited thing was cooked in the vessel, not from the day it was acquired nor from the day it was washed.
| Situation | Status of the taste | Verdict | Source |
|---|---|---|---|
| A pot in which the prohibited thing cooked less than 24 h ago (בת יומא) | לשבח — the taste is still good | Forbidden, and what is cooked in it is forbidden | עבודה זרה ס״ז ע״ב ; שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב a contrario |
| A pot in which 24 h have passed — ששהתה מעת לעת משנתבשלו בה האיסור | פגום — הויא נותן טעם לפגם | Permitted בדיעבד, forbidden לכתחלה | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב |
| The reason for that rabbinic prohibition | A decree of caution | גזירה אטו בת יומא | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב ; עבודה זרה ע״ו ע״א |
| A pot absorbed with a prohibited food, and one wishes to cook permitted food in it | Same | The same decree | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב |
| A pot absorbed with milk, and one wishes to cook meat in it — or the reverse | Same | ובין שבלועה מחלב ובא לבשל בה בשר או איפכא | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב |
| A pot absorbed with בשר בחלב in which water was heated before one night had passed | The count starts over | ומונים מעת לעת משעה שהוחמו המים | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ד |
| Why the count restarts | חתיכה נעשית נבילה | The ט״ז: « דבבשר בחלב אמרינן חתיכה עצמה נעשית נבילה » | ט״ז יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ב |
| Other prohibitions, in the same situation | The count does not restart | מה שאין כן בשאר איסורים | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ד |
Seif 3 is the lamdanic heart of the siman. It brings two corrections to seif 2: time spoils only what has been absorbed, and it spoils only with respect to a food that is not sharp.
| Case | Does the spoiling hold? | The decisive words | Source |
|---|---|---|---|
| A pot not בת יומא, well rinsed, with no forbidden fat stuck on it | 🟢 Yes | דוקא שהדיחה יפה וסר ממנה כל שמנונית איסור הדבוק בה | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ג (י״א: רשב״א, טור, ראב״ד) |
| A pot not בת יומא badly rinsed, the prohibited matter still בעין | 🔴 No | אינו נפגם בשהיית מעת לעת | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ג |
| The same case, but there is sixty against what is stuck alone | 🟢 Everything is permitted | The Rama: דמה שבקדרה כבר נפגם וא״צ בטול | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג, referring to Siman 95 |
| Cooking a sharp dish in a prohibited pot that is not בת יומא | 🔴 No — forbidden | The Rama: י״א דבדברים חריפים לא אמרינן דין נותן טעם לפגם | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג, referring to Simanim 95 and 96 |
| What counts as a sharp dish: mainly vinegar, spices, other sharp things | 🔴 No | The Rama means תבשיל שרובו חומץ או תבלין או שאר דברים חריפין | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג |
| An ordinary dish into which a little spice was put | 🟢 Yes — this is not a sharp dish | אבל לא מחשב התבשיל חריף משום מעט תבלין שבו, וכן נוהגין | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג, in the name of the מרדכי and the רשב״א סימן תמ״ט |
| It was the original prohibited food that was sharp; 24 h later a non-sharp permitted food is cooked in it | 🟢 Yes — permitted | דאין החריפות הראשון משוי ליה לשבח | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג, in the name of the ארוך כלל ל״ח |
Seifim 6 and 7 are what make everything else workable: without them no vessel whose history is unknown would ever be usable.
| Point | The rule | Source |
|---|---|---|
| A non-Jew's vessels, when nothing is known about them | סתם כלי עובד כוכבים הם בחזקת שאינם בני יומן | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו |
| The consequence when one transgressed and used them before kashering | לפיכך אם עבר ונשתמש בהם קודם הכשר התבשיל מותר | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו |
| The mechanism of the presumption | summary — it is a ספק ספיקא: perhaps they did not use it today, and even if they did, perhaps with something that spoils | ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ד ; ט״ז יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ד |
| Why that is not enough לכתחלה | summary — for cooking לכתחלה only one doubt remains, and a pot that is not בת יומא is forbidden לכתחלה | ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ד |
| Water heated in the non-Jew's vessel in order to knead bread | Forbidden to knead with that water: for this it is still לכתחלה — הואיל ועדיין לא התחיל הנאתו | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ו, in the name of the שערי דורא and its glosses |
| The same water, had it been heated for drinking | summary — the Shach: it would be permitted to drink, since for that it already counts as בדיעבד | ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ה, in the name of the תורת חטאת כלל נ״ט |
| Something the non-Jew made for his own sake, which the Jew then buys | Permitted לכתחלה, since it was already done by his hand — מקרי דיעבד | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ו ; ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ו |
| Telling him “cook me vegetables in your pot”, or “make me a preserve” | Forbidden — שכל האומר בשל לי הרי הוא כאלו בישל בידיו | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו |
| Going through an apothecary, or another craftsman | אפשר that this is permitted: craftsmen keep clean vessels for their trade so as not to spoil their work | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו |
| The Mehaber's moral conclusion | ובעל נפש יחוש שדברים אלו מביאים לידי טהרה ונקיות | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו |
| Our own vessels, when nothing is known about them | כך סתם כלים שלנו בחזקת שאינן בני יומן | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ז ; ט״ז יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ו |
| A difference between the two presumptions | summary — the באר שבע: for our own vessels the presumption applies only when the owner is not before us to be asked; whereas a non-Jew is not asked even when present, since his word neither forbids nor permits | פתחי תשובה יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ו |
The last four seifim leave the pot for everyday life: what one leaves with others, what one sends them, what one buys from them.
| Situation | Verdict | The decisive detail | Source |
|---|---|---|---|
| Leaving meal vessels in a non-Jew's house | 🔴 To be avoided | דחיישינן שמא ישתמש בהם | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ט |
| Vessels given to a craftsman for repair | 🟡 Put a mark on them | The Rama: צריך לעשות בהם סימן so that he does not use them | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט, in the name of the ב״י בשם א״ח |
| No mark, and the vessels stayed about half a day | 🔴 הגעלה on return | ודוקא אם שהו קצת אצל העובד כוכבים דהיינו כחצי יום | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט |
| They stayed only a short while | 🟢 Nothing to fear | אבל לפי שעה אין לחוש | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט, in the name of the מרדכי פרק אין מעמידין |
| The ט״ז on that half day | 🟡 A matter of use, not of the clock | summary — “half a day” is not what is written in the gemara: each object is judged by its own use, a drinking vessel is a concern even for a short while, a cooking vessel only after a long stay | ט״ז יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ז |
| They were taken back only after a delay, or stayed 24 h with the Jew | 🟢 We incline to leniency | The Rama: אזלינן לקולא ואין חוששין בדיעבד (סברת הרב) | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט ; ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ח |
| Taken back the same day and used without הגעלה | 🔴 יש אוסרים המאכל | Like a vessel that is certainly בן יומו (ארוך). The Rama adds: ובמקום צורך יש להקל בדיעבד | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט |
| The ט״ז on that last leniency | 🔴 He rejects it | « כבר נתבאר שלענין הלכה לא קיימא לן כן » | ט״ז יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ט |
| Non-Jewish servants in a Jewish home | 🟡 לכתחלה, do not set our vessels aside for them | But the Shach: summary — people are no longer careful about this, because such servants are always in the Jew's house while he comes and goes, a case where it is permitted even לכתחלה | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט ; ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ט, referring to Siman 118 |
| Bowls sent to a non-Jew with food and left there | 🟢 If the food is still recognisable in them | אם ניכר בהם המאכל ששלח הישראל בתוכם מותר ואם לאו אסור | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:י |
| The reason for forbidding when nothing is recognisable | 🔴 Only where dishes are washed in hot water | דחיישינן שמא הודח עם כלי איסור | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:י |
| Buying vessels a non-Jew says are new, מסיח לפי תומו | 🟢 The Mehaber permits | The condition: ויראה שהוא כמו שהוא אומר | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:י״א |
| The basis of that trust | 🟢 Only a rabbinic prohibition | The Shach: summary — since their vessels are not בני יומן, only a rabbinic prohibition is at stake, and a non-Jew speaking מסיח לפי תומו is believed on a rabbinic prohibition | ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק י |
| The Rama's custom | 🟡 יש מחמירים | Buy only כשמוכר הרבה כלים וקונה כלי בין הכלים — וכן נוהגין לכתחלה | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:י״א, in the name of the רשב״א בשם ר׳ יונה |
| In a pressing situation — a guest at a non-Jew's with no vessels | 🟢 We follow the Mehaber | נוהגין כסברא הראשונה וכן עיקר ; and see Siman 137 | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:י״א |
| Bowls that come from overseas, hollowed, greenish or reddish | 🔴 יש מי שאומר: never with hot | מפני שאינן חדשות שהעובדי כוכבים משתמשים בהם ואינו ניכר | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:י״ב |
A small amount of prohibited matter absorbed into a vessel that is never used with so little permitted food that the prohibited matter could give taste to it — a large pot, a barrel: one may use it לכתחלה, even if it is בן יומו, לפי שאי אפשר לבא לידי נתינת טעם. But a vessel used with a small quantity — a bowl — remains forbidden, שאין מבטלין איסור לכתחלה אפילו איסור מועט ואפילו איסור הבלוע (שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ה).
כלי שנאסר בבליעת איסור ונתערב באחרים ואינו ניכר בטל ברוב (שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ח, in the name of the טור בשם רשב״א). A vessel is not a food: it is not measured in sixty, it is nullified by a simple majority. The Shach notes that the rule is given elsewhere: summary — it is a repetition of Siman 102, where it was explained (ש״ך יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ז).
| Seif | Subject | The essentials |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | The principle | נותן טעם לפגם מותר — four words, and the siman's title: דין נותן טעם לפגם בכלים, in twelve seifim. |
| 2 | The pot that is not בת יומא | A pot in which twenty-four hours have passed since the prohibited food cooked in it is נותן טעם לפגם; and even so the Sages forbade cooking in it לכתחלה, גזירה אטו בת יומא — whether the wall absorbed prohibited food and one wishes to cook permitted food in it, or it absorbed milk and one wishes to cook meat in it, or the reverse. |
| 3 | The two limits of the spoiling | י״א: the pot is deemed spoiled only if it was well rinsed and all the forbidden fat stuck to it is gone; if the prohibited matter remained בעין, waiting does not spoil it. Rama: (a) if there is sixty against what is stuck alone, everything is permitted, for what is in the wall is already spoiled and needs no nullification; (b) י״א that with sharp foods this rule is not said — a dish mainly of vinegar, spices or other sharp things cooked in a prohibited pot that is not בת יומא is forbidden, but a dish is not called sharp for a little spice in it, וכן נוהגין; (c) conversely, if it was the prohibited food that was sharp, and twenty-four hours later a non-sharp permitted food was cooked in it — that is permitted. |
| 4 | בשר בחלב and the count reset | A pot absorbed with meat and milk in which water was heated before one night had passed: it counts as though the prohibited food had cooked in it afresh, and the twenty-four hours are counted from the hour the water was heated — which is not so for other prohibitions. |
| 5 | A small prohibition in a large vessel | A small amount of prohibited matter absorbed into a vessel not used with so little permitted food that it could give taste to it — a large pot, a barrel: it may be used לכתחלה even if it is בן יומו, since it is impossible to come to any giving of taste. But a vessel used with a small quantity, like a bowl, is forbidden: one does not nullify a prohibition לכתחלה, even a small one, even an absorbed one. |
| 6 | The presumption about their vessels | סתם כלי עובד כוכבים are presumed not בני יומן; therefore if one transgressed and used them before kashering, the dish is permitted. Rama: but water heated in their vessel in order to knead bread may not be used for kneading — for that it is still לכתחלה, the benefit not having begun; whereas something the non-Jew made for his own purposes is permitted לכתחלה, מקרי דיעבד. Even so it is forbidden to tell him cook me vegetables in your pot, for whoever says “cook for me” is as if he cooked with his own hands; through apothecaries or other craftsmen אפשר that it is permitted, since they keep clean vessels for their trade; and a בעל נפש will take care, for these things lead to purity and cleanliness. |
| 7 | The presumption about ours | Just as their vessels are presumed not בני יומן, so too our own vessels are presumed not בני יומן. |
| 8 | A vessel mixed among others | A vessel forbidden through absorption that became mixed among others and is no longer recognisable is nullified by the majority. |
| 9 | Vessels left at a non-Jew's | One should avoid leaving meal vessels in a non-Jew's house, lest he use them. Rama: even when given to a craftsman for repair one must put a mark on them; if one failed to, they require הגעלה when taken back — and only if they stayed a while, that is about half a day, for a short while is no concern. All this when one wishes to use them the same day they were given, where there is only one doubt; but if they were not taken back until after a delay, or waited twenty-four hours with the Jew, we incline to leniency. Taken back the same day and used without הגעלה, some forbid the dish as with a vessel that is certainly בן יומו; and where there is need one may be lenient בדיעבד. לכתחלה one should be careful in every case, even with the non-Jewish servants of a Jewish household. |
| 10 | Bowls sent out with food | Bowls a Jew sent to a non-Jew with food and which stayed there: if the food he sent is still recognisable in them, they are permitted; if not, they are forbidden — where dishes are customarily washed in hot water, lest they were washed together with a prohibited vessel. |
| 11 | Buying vessels said to be new | Meal vessels in a non-Jew's hand, who מסיח לפי תומו says they are new, and it appears to be as he says: it is permitted to buy them from him. Rama: some are stricter and hold him not to be believed — one should take vessels from a non-Jew only when he sells many vessels and one buys a vessel among the others, and such is the custom לכתחלה; but in a pressing situation, such as a guest at a non-Jew's who has no vessels, we follow the first opinion, and that is the main ruling. |
| 12 | Bowls from overseas | יש מי שאומר: bowls that come from overseas, hollowed, greenish or reddish, may never be used with hot food, because they are not new — non-Jews use them and it does not show. |
| Question | Reflex answer | Source |
|---|---|---|
| A prohibited taste that spoils the dish? | It does not forbid — that is the opening sentence | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:א |
| A prohibited pot two days old? | נותן טעם לפגם — but forbidden לכתחלה | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב |
| From when are the twenty-four hours counted? | From the cooking of the prohibited food in the vessel | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ב |
| A badly washed pot with visible forbidden fat? | Waiting spoiled nothing: the matter is בעין | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ג |
| A dish mainly of vinegar in that pot? | Forbidden: with a חריף there is no נותן טעם לפגם | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג |
| An ordinary dish with a little spice? | Not a sharp dish — permitted, וכן נוהגין | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ג |
| Water heated in a בשר בחלב pot of that day? | The twenty-four hour count starts from there | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ד ; ט״ז יו״ד קכ״ב ס״ק ב |
| A vessel whose history is unknown? | Presumed not בן יומו — theirs and ours alike | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו-ז |
| Telling a non-Jew to cook for you in his pot? | Forbidden: it is as if you cooked with your own hands | שו״ע יו״ד קכ״ב:ו |
| Vessels left half a day at a non-Jew's? | הגעלה — unless they are taken back only after a delay | רמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:ט |
| A non-Jew who says his vessels are new? | The Mehaber believes him; the Rama, only under pressure | שו״ע ורמ״א יו״ד קכ״ב:י״א |
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